Has anyone yet set up their home net with a Mac as Localtalk Bridge, to another Mac running OS X and signed into the OS X mac from their GS, mapping a drive from Finder to the desktop? or connected from a IIe? I have a theory on the later if the former works. I have not tried this yet and am curious if it is possible. -Bart Bart wrote: > Has anyone yet set up their home net with a Mac as Localtalk Bridge, to > another Mac running OS X and signed into the OS X mac from their GS, mapping > a drive from Finder to the desktop? Not yet. I haven't had my IIgs set up recently, and I don't have a convenient machine on which to run LocalTalk Bridge, since my SE/30 stopped working. There is one significant problem: out of the box, Mac OS X only supports acting as an AFP server over TCP/IP, not AppleTalk. There is a "use_appletalk" property in NetInfo, under /config/AppleFileServer, which is 0 by default. I haven't tested it yet to see whether you get serving over AppleTalk simply by setting this property to 1. -- David Empson dempson@actrix.gen.nz > Bart wrote: >> Has anyone yet set up their home net with a Mac as Localtalk Bridge, to >> another Mac running OS X and signed into the OS X mac from their GS, mapping >> a drive from Finder to the desktop? In article <1fapmpg.1e37onv8l9ps0N%dempson@actrix.gen.nz>, dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) wrote: > Not yet. I haven't had my IIgs set up recently, and I don't have a convenient > machine on which to run LocalTalk Bridge, since my SE/30 stopped working. > There is one significant problem: out of the box, Mac OS X only supports > acting as an AFP server over TCP/IP, not AppleTalk. I knew about that. > There is a "use_appletalk" property in NetInfo, under /config/AppleFileServer, > which is 0 by default. I haven't tested it yet to see whether you get serving > over AppleTalk simply by setting this property to 1. I didn't know about that! I just tried it and it _mostly_ works. An iMac running Mac OS X 10.1.3, connected via ethernet to an old PowerBook 5300 running LocalTalk Bridge, which is connected via LocalTalk to my IIgs. The IIgs can now mount and access the public folder on the iMac, it works perfectly for reading files from there. However, when trying to write a file (I set up a folder with guest read and write privileges) the IIgs returns an error $53 (invalid system call parameter). The file is created on the Mac but has a length of zero. Oh well, half-working is a lot better than not working at all! -- Roger Johnstone, Invercargill, New Zealand Apple II - FutureCop:LAPD - iMac Game Wizard http://homepage.mac.com/rojaws ________________________________________________________________________ "But what is it good for?" Engineer at the Advanced Computing Systems Division of IBM commenting on the micro chip, 1968 Michael Spangler wrote: > dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) wrote: > > Bart wrote: > > > > > Has anyone yet set up their home net with a Mac as Localtalk Bridge, > > > to another Mac running OS X and signed into the OS X mac from their > > > GS, mapping a drive from Finder to the desktop? > > > > There is one significant problem: out of the box, Mac OS X only supports > > acting as an AFP server over TCP/IP, not AppleTalk. There is a > > "use_appletalk" property in NetInfo, under /config/AppleFileServer, > > which is 0 by default. I haven't tested it yet to see whether you get > > serving over AppleTalk simply by setting this property to 1. > > OS X 10.1.2 works with appletalk now. I have an LC III running 7.5.3 > (no appleshare over TCP) with Appleshare 3.0 running over ethernet, > and was sending files around last night. Yes, but in that case, Mac OS X is the client, not the server. This is supported out of the box with Mac OS X 10.1 and later. (10.0.x didn't support AFP over AppleTalk at all.) The issue is that Mac OS X doesn't automatically support acting as a server for AFP over AppleTalk. You can turn it on with the "use_appletalk" property I mentioned, but judging from Roger Johnstone's followup, it sounds like the IIgs AppleShare client isn't fully compatible with Mac OS X's AFP server. -- David Empson dempson@actrix.gen.nz http://kbase.info.apple.com/cgi- bin/WebObjects/kbase.woa/30/wa/query?searchMode=Expert&type=id&val=KC.60065 aka Knowlege base artice 60065 << Mac OS X Server 1.x: Apple File Services Compared To AppleShare IP Apple File Services does not have all of the options available under versions of AppleShare IP for Mac OS 8 Some functions of AppleShare IP that are not part of Apple File Services include: Duplicate user, import, export Batch-change user options Log on greetings Multi-homing support Dynamic server name change (You must restart Apple File Services to change the server's AppleTalk name) Setting access privileges on read-only volumes, such as CD-ROM Support for HFS or UFS volumes Application launch limit support DOS short names support ProDOS support <---------------------------------------- Cannot enable or disable just AFP/TCP or AFP/AppleTalk Idle disconnect Automatic reassignment of access privileges after a user is deleted Web-based administration from OmniWeb browser on Mac OS X Server platform Clear text authentication only; no extensible UAM mechanism Ejectable media is not shared automatically. When it or its sub-directory is shared explicitly, the access privileges are set to read-only for everyone Password related convenience features: Password expiration Minimum password length Disable account after a specific number of failed attempts Change ability to allow user to save password for automatic log on There is no serial number for Apple FIle Services as there was for AppleShare IP >> Well I tried it. I am sitting in my shop. Upstairs in the Library is a Mac 8500 that sports among other things a Sonnet Cressendo G3 450Mhz CPU upgrade and OS X running on a Conner 4 gig SCSI I recovered from a PeeCee, reformatted and installed in a 40 meg external case. That Mac is on my Network from Heck connected by way of a router to a LONG CAT5 wire and a hub to the basement shop. Down here I have a Quadra 950 running System 7.5.3 Appleshare 3.0.3 and Localtalk Bridge. Also in the shop are 2 IIe(s) with Workstation cards a IIgs IIe upgrade ROM 1, and a ROM 3. Both IIe(s) are accelerated but the 2 IIgs(s) are running at standard speed. all IIs are hooked to a Localtalk network that also includes a IWII on a localtalk card, and a IWLQ also localtalk. Also in the shop are a Performa 6200CD (ethernet slot card), Performa 578 on an Assante EN/SC SCSI<>Ethernet box, a 8100 on standard 10BT, a 386 with a Appletalk ISA card, a Pentium II Pee Cee and a Laserwriter IIg hooked in to both the Ethernet AND the localtalk network (I found this far easier to print to via the IIs in that you don't need the LT Bridge that way) Got all that? NOW! I fired up all the IIs with the OS X box upstairs on, Appletalk on, Sharing on. booted the IIe(s) with workstation card in slot 7, booted the IIGSs with appletalk on and then selected Appleshare via the Control Panel. On the IIe(s): on boot: "Looking for AFP Servers" then a list of each machine avaialable (5 of them) and one of these is the OS X box. Select any box without Appleshare 3.0.3 and you get first a list of volumes and a signon box. Select a volume and supply a valid id and: "Your startup configuration has not been set up by the administrator" Select a machine WITH Appleshare 3.0.3 and you get: same as above except, "Now Launching the startup Path \machine\basic.system and a nice ProDOS prompt (or im my case a Sneeze screen). Select the OS X Box (note this gang: you CAN select it, ie it shows in the list!) and: "The Server is not responding, you cannot connect to it" IIGS: Similar tale for either IIGS When I select the OS X machine in Appleshare, it does highlight the machine then... even when I enter a valid User Name in the User Name box, the next screen comes up "Connect to the file server "nnnn" as: (x) Guest <---this one is checked ( ) Registered User <---this one is greyed out reply OK and you get "No Response from the server. Please try again.".. Looks like that young colt OS X refuses any advances from our Grand Old Lady ][ In a word: DRAT! -Bart Keeper of the Network from Heck