Subject: Re: The "user-developer gap" myth Path: lobby!newstf02.news.aol.com!portc01.blue.aol.com!verio.MISMATCH!iad-peer.news.verio.net!news.verio.net!dfw-read.news.verio.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <395924BE.75F7C640@dcnet2000.com> From: Phoenyx X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14-15 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 References: <20000623222201.27996.00000171@NG-FM1.AOL.COM> <3957BAFD.1089137D@swbell.net> <3958d864.329507237@news> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 50 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 17:03:42 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.2.54.218 X-Complaints-To: abuse@verio.net X-Trace: dfw-read.news.verio.net 962143262 204.2.54.218 (Tue, 27 Jun 2000 22:01:02 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 22:01:02 GMT Organization: Verio Hi Jeff, A bit misleading here. >Teodor Angeloff- Apple II Oasis v2.4 Includes original Apple2 programs and helps users who want to backup software on the PC. See below about emulators. >Peter Koch- unix-based A2 emulator This may not be A2 based, but some people get back into the community after fooling around with emulators. >Andy McFadden- Nulib2 Nulib can be compiled and run on a GS. In this respect, it can be considered as a supported archive program. >Steven W. Mentzer- XGS/32 IIgs emulator >Jonathan Schattke- AppleWin v1.11.B As mentioned, some people who fool around with emulators have decided to rejoin our community. IMHO, it does not require a large software inventory or special qualifications to be an Apple II developer. Anyone who offers a program for others to use are developers. I see no reason to put on such airs by calling myself a developer. I like the way Woz did things. You create them because you love the machine any thing else is an extra benefit. I remember a time when II users were pretty close knit bunch. We had to be, since we were usually the only place another user could turn to for help and advice. There has always been a division between the large developers and us, but never was the true community at odds as it is now. -- Thank you for your time and interest. I hope it was helpful or at least interesting. Phoenyx, Apple2 user since March 1984 Links to Phoenyx's pages: preferred..... http://zip.to/Phoenyx_A2 alternate..... http://www.tinyangeldesigns.com/Apple2