Subject: Re: another newbie ADT question (sorry) Path: lobby!newstf02.news.aol.com!portc01.blue.aol.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!nycmny1-snh1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!newsfeed.mathworks.com!cyclone.swbell.net!nnrp3.sbc.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <39718C8E.5CC68A5C@swbell.net> From: Rubywand Reply-To: rubywand@swbell.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 References: <8kra9s$74n$1@nnrp1.deja.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 78 Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 05:21:02 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.62.142.219 X-Complaints-To: abuseswbell.net X-Trace: nnrp3.sbc.net 963742747 216.62.142.219 (Sun, 16 Jul 2000 05:19:07 CDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 05:19:07 CDT Organization: SBC Internet Services cjyo@my-deja.com writes ... > > I've just started trying to get ADT to work from a Windows98 PC to an > Apple ][+. I'm using the Apple Super Serial Card in terminal mode with > a straight-through cable. Terminal (printer) mode without a NULL modem adaptor is supposed to work like communication (modem) mode with a NULL modem adaptor; so, your straight-through cable should be okay. > > My (Windows) question is: can I hook the straight-through cable from > the Apple SSC to the 25-pin Parallel printer port on my PC? So far it > doesn't seem to be working, because I can't select the Parallel port in > any of my terminal programs on the PC. The only available choices are > my PC Modem or Com Ports. The catch is that the PC ADT program (adt.exe) needs to run under MS-DOS (not Win95 or a DOS window in Win95). From Win95, you need to click on "Start", select "Shut Down" and do a 'Restart the computer in MS-DOS mode'. In DOS, navigate to the folder containing adt.exe and start it by entering this--> adt . > > I'm guessing from the ADT readme, that I actually need to connect the > Apple SSC, through the straight-through (or null modem cable) to one of > the 9-pin COM ports with a DB-25 to DB-9 cable, instead of the 25 pin > Parallel port. Right. You would usually connect to COM-1 or COM-2. > So I bought the wrong cable...Is this correct? A straight-through DB-25 cable with all pins connected should be okay as a connection cable extender; but, yes, you do need to be able to connect to a COM port. > > I have installed the Windows Direct Cable Connection system - does this > have anything to do with getting ADT to connect to the Apple? > Don't know. (Seems like I experimented with Windows Direct Connect once and finally figured out that both sides of the connection need to be using it in order to do transfers.) My guess is that, as far as using ADT is concerned, it does not matter. You will probably be using Hyperterm on the PC to handle the transfer of the Apple part of ADT to the Apple II. From then on, you will be running adt.exe on the PC to handle actual disk image transfers. [Apple II running ADT] <----disk image xfers---> [PC running adt.exe] > Finally, what is the best Windows terminal program to use? (I'm just > using HyperTerm as mentioned in the ADT readme). .... There are likely to be a number of programs which are at least a bit more user-friendly. Even so, once you have created and saved a connection setup, Hyperterm is pretty easy to use. (You do need to remember to load the setup you want to use whenever you start Hyperterm.) Anyway, in the case of ADT, Hyperterm is used only to transfer ADT at 300 baud to the Apple II as described in the ADT docs. (Note: After the transfer, it is a good idea to write protect your ADT diskette.) Once ADT is transferred and saved on the Apple II to a DOS 3.3 disk, it can be BRUN whenever you want to do a disk image transfer. The program you run (under MS-DOS) on the PC is adt.exe. Rubywand