Article 153263 of comp.sys.apple2: Path: news1.icaen!news.uiowa.edu!news.physics.uiowa.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.deja.com!nnrp1.deja.com!not-for-mail From: armagon@my-deja.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Subject: Re: Please help with //c to IBM PC connection Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 04:20:22 GMT Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy. Lines: 177 Message-ID: <7tucts$1es$1@nnrp1.deja.com> References: <7tjd1g$ije$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <2mrM3.2848$Ck.6996@news1.mia> NNTP-Posting-Host: 161.184.26.188 X-Article-Creation-Date: Tue Oct 12 04:20:22 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x31.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 161.184.26.188 X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDarmagon Xref: news1.icaen comp.sys.apple2:153263 Hmm... I've tried to figure what to do with info similar to that in the past. I do not know if the apple //c's strange handshaking method caused grief. For the //c side the pinouts look like this: (Info is from http://home.swbell.net/rubywand/R023PINOUTS.htm#011 , with the entire section being quoted): Quote Starts ------------ 011 //c (5-pin) serial port and modem cable pinouts F to top (Most of this is from a post by David Empson.) Mini-Din 5 //c Serial Port (Female) Socket 5 1 4 2 3 The functions are: 1 Handshake Out (nominally DTR) 2 Data Out (TxD) 3 Ground 4 Data In (RxD) 5 Handshake In (nominally DSR) Mini-Din 5 //c Serial Cable (Male) Plug 1 5 2 4 3 To wire up a IIc to a simple modem without hardware handshaking, use the following pinout: IIc Modem DIN-5 DB-25M 1 ----- 20 DTR 2 ----- 2 TxD 3 ----- 7 Gnd 4 ----- 3 RxD 5 ----- 6 DSR (you might want to use pin 8, DCD in some cases) The IIc cannot do hardware handshaking very well, but this is as close as you can get: IIc Modem DIN-5 DB-25M 1 ----- 4 RTS 2 ----- 2 TxD 3 ----- 7 Gnd 4 ----- 3 RxD 5 ----- 5 CTS The IIc's handshaking lines have annoying side effects, which cause problems with hardware handshaking: 1. The "Handshake Out" signal is implemented to mean "I want to send data" (the official and original meaning of RTS). If you turn off the output handshake line, the IIc will stop sending data. For a hardware handshaking modem, RTS is supposed to mean "You are allowed to send me data" (from the computer's point of view). If the computer tells the modem to stop transmitting, the computer will also be unable to transmit. This will reduce the rate at which data can be transferred bidirectionally, but doesn't cause any other problems. 2. The "Handshake In" signal is implemented to mean "There is receive data present" (the official meaning of DCD). If the incoming handshake line is disabled, the IIc will stop receiving data (ignore any data on RxD). For a hardware handshaking modem, CTS is supposed to mean "You are allowed to send me data" (from the modem's point of view). If the modem tells the computer to stop transmitting, the computer will also be unable to receive, and will discard any data sent by the modem while CTS is not active. This can cause screen corruption and loss of data blocks or acknowledgements during a file transfer, which will require retransmission. It is only likely to be a problem while a lot of data is being sent, so is more likely to cause problems during a file upload than a download. If the comms software is quick enough, it can drop RTS immediately when CTS is lowered, which will prevent the modem from sending any more data. You will need the //c System Utilities disk to set up the serial port speeds, or a comm program that overrides them anyway. Max speed is 9600. ----------------- Quote Ends In article <2mrM3.2848$Ck.6996@news1.mia>, "Gus Vilomar" wrote: > I was checking out Apple Oasis for Windows and I found the following text in > the help section. I hope this helps. > > Null Modem (Modem Eliminator) > > The null modem connection is a short cable and two connectors. The standard > serial connectors are DB-25 and DB-9. Following are their pin descriptions: > > DB-9 Connector > > Pin Signal Pin Signal > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > 1 CD Carrier Detect 6 DSR Data Set Ready > 2 RXD Receive Data 7 RTS Request to Send > 3 TXD Transmit Data 8 CTS Clear to Send > 4 DTR Data Term. Ready 9 RI Ring Indicator > 5 GND Signal GND > > DB-25 Connector > > Pin Signal Pin Signal > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > 1 GND Ground / Shield 14 {2nd TXD} > 2 TXD Transmit Data 15 Transmit Clock > 3 RXD Received Data 16 {2nd Rec. Clock} > > 4 RTS Request to Send 17 {Receive Clock} > 5 CTS Clear to Send 18 {Unassigned} > 6 DSR Data Set Ready 19 {2nd RTS} > 7 GND Ground 20 DTR Data Term Ready > 8 DCD Carrier Detect 21 {Sig. Quality} > 9 {Reserved} 22 RI Ring Indicator > 10 {Reserved} 23 {Data Rate Sel.} > 11 {Unassigned} 24 {Transmit Clock} > 12 {2nd CD} 25 {Unassigned} > 13 {2nd CTS} > > Here is the Null Modem connection: > > PC (DB-9) Apple*(DB-25) > > RxD (2) ---------------------- TxD (2) > TxD (3) ---------------------- RxD (3) > GND (5) ---------------------- GND (7) > > RTS (7) --\ /-- RTS (4) > CTS (8) --/ \-- CTS (5) > > CD (1) --\ /-- DSR (6) > DSR (6) --+ +-- DTR (20) > DTR (4) --/ \-- CD (8) > > * For Super Serial Card (SSC) put the TERMINAL/MODEM jumper pointing up at > 'MODEM'. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.