Subject: Re: IIe on a Card-- Macs you can use Path: lobby!newstf02.news.aol.com!portc04.blue.aol.com!newsfeed.mathworks.com!cyclone.swbell.net!typhoon01.swbell.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <36DC8BF2.5C50E4B1@swbell.net> From: Rubywand Reply-To: rubywand@swbell.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 References: <36DB6DBC.57E@ix.netcom.com> <36DB946D.96621FAC@swbell.net> <36DBA789.4401@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 108 Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 19:10:10 -0600 NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.193.9.188 X-Complaints-To: abuse@swbell.net X-Trace: typhoon01.swbell.net 920423398 207.193.9.188 (Tue, 02 Mar 1999 17:09:58 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 17:09:58 PDT Organization: SBC Internet Services Liam Busey writes ... > > Rubywand wrote: > > > Besides LC's, are there any Macs with a PDS Slot in which the IIe > > Card will work? > > From what I understand, the IIe emulation card will run in any Mac that > has an LC style PDS slot and can run under 24-bit addressing. I believe > that includes all of the LC line with internal SCSI, the Color Classic, > and at least one Quadra (Q605). You can find a more extensive list on > the old Mates/DeMaggio CSA2 FAQ. > > Liam Busey Thanks. Here is the info Nathan posted about a year ago ... >> According to Jim Nichol ( jnichol@tso.cin.ix.net), the supported Macs for such a card are: The 630 Macs _do_ have LC-style PDS slots. However, the 630's cannot use a IIe Card because you cannot turn off 32-bit addressing in a 630. The IIe Card _will_ work in all other Macs with an LC-style PDS slot, including: Mac LC, LCII, LCIII, Quadra 605, LC475, Performa 475, Performa 550, Performa 575-8, Color Classic, LC520 (I think), and several other Performas that are the equivalents of the LC's above. << To which we can add from Randy Shackelford ... >> There's the Performa equivalents to the LC series too. Not just the LC, LC II, and LC III but the LC/Performa 500 series (520 and 550). There are some 400 series Performas too which are equivalent to a Q605. If the card does indeed work with '040s, that means the Performa 575/7/8 qualify too. Apple really got confusing with these LC/Performa models. For example, an LC 550 has an '030 while a 475 has an '040. And a 400 has the crippled 16 bit bus and 16 MHz clock like an LC. FWIW I have a pair of these cards on hand plus a Color Classic. The card works both on the original CC logic board and with an LC520 board swapped in. Also someone asked elsewhere in this thread what drives connect to the card. You can consider the card the same as a Unidisk 3.5 capable //c in that regard. The 3.5 controller is in slot 5 and the 5.25 is in slot 6. The card's software doesn't allow these to be in other slots. I prefer having the 3.5 card in slot 7 like in my //e. Apple went to absurd lengths to keep that setup, e.g. the mouse is in slot 7 and the memory card is in slot 4 on the memory expandable //c. Putting the mouse in 4, the memory card in 5, and the 3.5 in 7 makes much more sense. << and from Coaxial ... >> The Quadra 605, Performa 475, Performa 476, and the LC 475 are the same machine for all intensive purposes. The biggest difference is that the Quadra 605 has a jumper block placed on a jumper pin to identify itself as the Quadra 605 to the system software, whereas the other three models above don't have that jumper block in place. The above models of course came configured differently in terms of memory, hard drive capacity, etc. (usually). And the Quadra 605 had a slightly nicer looking form factor, although you have to look close to notice it. << and from Nick ... >> I used to run STM on a Quadra 660AV (25 mhz) and it performed acceptably. << Evidently, if the Mac has a Processor Direct Slot (PDS), you are likely to be okay for using the IIe Card unless the Mac uses 32-bit addressing which can not be turned off. Rubywand