Subject: Re: Looking For An Apple I From: Jeff Lemke Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2.marketplace Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 19:54:53 -0600 Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523 Lines: 138 Message-ID: <37460E6D.FFD@terra.cira.colostate.edu> References: <7i1c2d$2ti@journal.concentric.net> <19990520132949.21434.00004068@ng-fi1.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: nps9.cira.colostate.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) Cturley2 wrote: > > According to Woz, in my last conversation and email with him concerning the > Apple 1, he told me that: " We built perhaps 200 Apple I's, sold perhaps > 175"...see ref url: > > http://www.grin.net/~cturley/gsezine/GS.WorldView/*APPLE.HISTORY/ > > Woz also mentioned to me that he still had a couple of them he might be willing > to part with. But, that was in 1996 and he sense has decided to keep them. For any who might be interested in reading some of what Stan Veit wrote about the founding of Apple, I've included a few paragraphs about the Apple I days of 1976. (Stan Veit was later to be Editor-in-Chief Emeritus of the Computer Shopper - I think he's a good writer. His book, dated 1993, may still be available through WorldComm.) During the time of this story, Steve Jobs was trying to convince Veit to invest in his Apple idea. The following is excerpted from the book: "...He told me he had great plans, and Apple was going to be a big company. He asked me to invest $10,000, and said he would give me 10% of Apple Computer for my investment. Looking at this long-haired hippie and his friends, I thought, "You would be the last person in the world I would trust with ten-grand!" What I said was, "Steve, all my money is invested in my store, but I will help you. I have a double booth at the big computer show in Atlantic City, New Jersey this August. If you come to the show, I will give you free booth space and publicize the Apple computer." He was somewhat disappointed at my turn-down but quick to take advantage of my offer. Booth space was expensive, and the show was a sell out. "I don't know if we can raise the fare to get to the show, but if we can I'll take you up on your offer. Woz has just finished the Apple II prototype, and he is bringing it over to show you." When Wozniak came over I was a little more impressed with him that Jobs. He brought a computer board with jumper wires all over and parts hanging off all over the board. This was to be the Apple II! After Woz hooked his haywire rig up to the living room TV, he turned it on, and there on the screen I saw a crude Breakout game in full color! Now I was really amazed. This was much better than the crude color graphics from the Cromemco Dazzler. After a few minutes Woz turned it off and said, "I am still working on it; everything heats up after a while!" "How do you like that?" said Jobs, smiling. "We're going to dump the Apple I and only work on the Apple II." "Steve," I said, "if you do that you will never sell another computer. You promised BASIC for the Apple I, and most dealers haven't sold the boards they bought from you. If you come out with an improved Model II they will be stuck. Put it on the back burner until you deliver on your promises." I suppose I wasn't much encouragement for the young businessman because I told him things he didn't want to hear, but a week later he called me in New York. "We have the tickets, and we are coming to the Atlantic City Show. Woz almost has BASIC finished - we will bring it with us. Get me a room at the hotel." I called the Shelborne and was told there were no more room. So I doubled up two of my people and gave the room to the Apple characters. On August 26, 1976, we all went to Atlantic City, New Jersey and the old Shelborne Hotel for what was to be the first national computer show, and the most important. We had our booth set up with our Apple I housed in a case with a monitor inside and the keyboard in front. It was a one-piece masterpiece made by a friend of mine, Mitch Bogdanowitz, who was a great model maker. Of course we also showed an IMSAI, and we expected to receive our first SOL at the show. Half of the booth we saved for the two Steves and their Apple computers. They showed up later in the day. Steve Jobs and Dan Kottke came into the booth and started to set up signs. "Woz is in the room finishing BASIC. He's using the hotel TV," said Jobs. The next day, on August 28th, the show opened. Steve Jobs had several Apple I computers running - the new Apple BASIC, and he had one encased in a wooden cabinet that he was really proud of. Their exhibit attracted a lot of attention, as well it should. In this show full of 8080 computers with large cabinets, flashing lights, and colorful switches, the Apple was the lone 6502-based machine. It was a single board, yet it had its own video display and ran full BASIC. In addition it could load from a cassette faster than any other machine there [1200 baud instead of 300]. Nobody who walked anywhere near the booth failed to be buttonholed by Steve Jobs, who told them in no uncertain terms what a great thing the Apple was. He even got press coverage - no mean feat in a show where the new SOL computer was introduced, where the Altair B dominated the largest booth, and where TDL showed the very first Z-80 CPU for the S-100 bus. We did not get the new SOL during the show, but one was given to us at the end. When the show closed, the partners went back to California somewhat disappointed because, in spite of all the attention, they had not sold one Apple I. Neither had I, although I had taken orders for several SOLs and a couple Imsai systems." ------------------------------------ Veit then describes that Jobs had found a financial backer anyway - Mike Makulla - a man who had already made a fortune by investing in the Intel company and had retired at 30. Veit continues: ------------------------------------ "I spent the year after the Atlantic City show selling SOL computers, SWTPC computers, and developing a dealership in Alpha Micro Time Sharing computers. However, when Apple IIs started to arrive, they slowly built into our major line, displacing the SOL and SWTPC 6800s. The Apple II changed the entire business. No longer did solder iron wielding techies hang out at our store - the Apple came completely built and ready to run. The Apple disk system was priced within everyone's price range, and soon there was a lot of very useful software for it, lead by Visicalc, the most important program. Businessmen would come into our store to buy "A Visicalc Machine" and that's all they used it for. In the Apple II users, we saw a different type of enthusiast. The Apple users did not mix very well with the S-100 users, just as there is a division between the Mac users and the MS-DOS users today. In New York City, The Big Apple Club was formed just for Apple owners and met at our store. The Apple users were much more oriented toward software and graphics applications. They were more interested in what a computer did then how it did it." ------------------------------------ This was a slightly condensed excerpt from Veit's description of the first year or so of the new Apple Computer Company. His coverage continues into the early '80's. Jeff Lemke