The Apple II Legacy - KFest-99 Ready - Set and AWAY WE GO ! (P.D.Q.) Pure Direct Quotes Compile Date 7-27-99 by MacProber Part One Buzzzzzz 1998-99 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Using my trusty guest logon to the A2 Delphi public messageboard I got these KFest 99 revelations to pass on the those unable to attend. Enjoy Folks ! MacProber ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Are you ready? OK...here we go. Don't forget your crazy tie for the "Roger Wagner Crazy Tie" contest at the roast. It seems like an appropriate way to "honor" Sir Ewen. :) We must have had 40 people show up last year, for the multi-system "Kfest wrap-up" chat that took place the day after Kfest ended. I fully expect that we'll have another exciting Kfest wrap-up on Monday, July 26th at 10 PM EDT. ·¿¿...sorry to relate, it didn't happen. At least not anywhere that I could find it happening. Hey, give them all a few days to rest up. We may have that KFest.99 wrap-up chat yet. As they say, better late than never. So, if you can't attend Kfest, attending the Kfest multi-system chat might be a great way to find out what went on at Kfest 99. So, I hope to see _all_ of you there. Monday. July 26, 1999. 10 PM EDT. ·¿¿...WHERE??? Monday. July 26, 1999. 10 PM EDT has come and gone. I saw nothing. As of Sunday afternoon, I know that the following software will be available from Shareware Solutions II during the Vendor's Fair... NiftySpell Harmonie WebWorks GS Addressed For Success CheckWorks Shifty List Golden Orchard CD The TABBS CD Studio City CD A few back issue packages of the Shareware Solutions II newsletter. ·¿¿...I've heard many wonderful things about all of the above titles. I'd strongly advise everybody to buy one of each - ASAP. ÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊ===================== ÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊKFEST GRAPHICS ALERT! ÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊ===================== ÊÊÊ===>>> NEW FILES ADDED <<<=== ÊWho would be interested in the following ÊÊÊawesome collection of Kfest graphics ÊÊÊÊÊTHAT WILL AVAILABLE FOR PURCHASE ÊÊÊÊÊÊÊAT THE KFEST '99 VENDOR FAIR ÊReserve your copy in advance to be certain Êto have one ready for you at Kfest '99 ÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊKfest Stuff #1 ÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊ--->>> CD Rom <<<--- Êat a nominal cost to cover the expenses of production? ÊC O N T E N T S ÊKfestStuff#1 CD ÊThere's about ===>>> 140 <<<=== megs total. ÊKfest 94 JPGs 106 files 4.15 MG > All edited, cropped, resized, ÊKfest 95 JPGs 199 files 6.12 MB > retouched, cleaned up ÊKfest 96 JPGs 307 files 9.82 MB > and/or ÊKfest 97 JPGs 410 files 19.90 MB > "embellished" ÊKfest 98 JPGs 340 files 10.90 MB > by Patz Pix ÊYearbook 95 Keepsakes of Kfest 36 files 1009x1320 JPGs 20.9 MG ÊPrints out to 36 pages of photos and text or can be viewed on the monitor. ÊYearbook 96 Keepsakes of Kfest 28 files 1009x1320 JPGs 18.7 MG ÊPrints out to 28 pages of photos and text or can be viewed on the monitor. ÊYearbook 97 Keepsakes of Kfest 24 files 1009x1320 JPGs 16.2 MG ÊPrints out to 24 pages of photos and text or can be viewed on the monitor. Ê===>>> NEW & JUST ADDED ÊYearbook 98 Keepsakes of Kfest 28 files 1009x1320 JPGs 6.45 MB ÊPrints out to 28 pages of photos and text or can be viewed on the monitor. ÊKeepCvr.jpg Cover Keepsakes of Kfest 1009x1320 JPG ÊTo print out or view. Ê95 Logo JPGs 35 files 1.33 MG Ê96 Logo JPGs 27 files 1.14 MG Ê97 Logo JPGs 29 files 1.42 MG Ê98 Logo JPGs 36 files 1.41 MG Ê99 Logo JPGs 60 files 2.31 MG These are the ones on the Kfest Web page. ÊMore Kfest Stuff JPGs 26 files 985 KB Mostly JPGs, a few GIFs. ÊA2 User Pics 11 jpgs. 248 KB ÊAnimated GIFs 34 files 15.1 MG ÊKansas City MIDI Music file 53.8 KB ÊMasterpiece MIDI Music file 7.9 KB ÊGenie Ad WAV Sound file 1.23 MG ÊBite WAV Sound file 171 KB ÊTape1.exe 914 KB ÊVideo only runs on PCs, I think. ÊPat Kern Ê ·¿¿...when, where, how much and what's the proceedure to order this CD??? I'll take one. If the price is right...I'll take two. For the past 10 years, Apple II enthusiasts from around the globe have made an annual pilgrimage to Kansas City, Missouri, to learn more about their computers, share their knowledge with others, and rekindle the spirit that has made their virtual community unique and powerful. ·¿¿...and in preperation for this Apple II enthusiast annual pilgrimage to Kansas City, Missouri...please read on (even if it's all over with now). Kfest has become a rich tradition. We are pleased to announce that in 1999, the tradition continues ... ·¿¿...yes it has become a rich tradition. So, much so that several who have attended Kfest in the past - were unable to afford the cost of it this year. Perhaps a budget/package deal might be offered for the next -> K2K KFest - 2000. From July 21 through July 25, Kfest '99 was in full session on the campus of Avila College in Kansas City. Sessions were held on a wide variety of Apple II topics, conducted July 22-23. A vendor fair with product demos occured on July 24. As always, the Kfest committee was working hard, to make this year's event the best ever. Kfest '99 provided the perfect opportunity for attendees to make new friends, renew acquaintances, see the faces of online neighbors they've chatted with through the years, allowing them to meet some of the programmers, developers, writers and publishers who help keep their computer platform viable in today's world, hear skilled lectures on computer issues and also witness demonstrations of new and old hardware and software. Most of all, they had great fun. Prepairing for the next Kfest - 2000 gathering...you may wonder, does this mean Kfest has everything an Apple II user would want? Well, no. There are some things Kfest '99 won't provide. We can almost guarantee you won't get much sleep. We can also guarantee that you won't mind a bit. In fact, you won't want to sleep much for fear you'll miss something! Last year's Kfest - 98, was one of the best ever. It was highlighted by a steady stream of new product releases, announcements and great demonstrations. Among the software titles released were GSoft BASIC, WebWorks GS, Disk Access II and the TABBS CD-ROM. Among new titles announced were NiftySpell, Marinetti 2.0, Spectrum 2.2 and Spectrum Internet Suite 1.1. It's still too early to know what Kfest '99 actually offered with produces. Things are still covered in a foggy veil of 'we need sleep - we'll tell all later'. But, you can certainly be assured it was once again a VERY special event indeed. Now is the time to make plans for K2K (Kfest - 2000). As always, staying in the Avila dorms is the recommended method of attendance. Much of the special magic occurs after hours, and being on hand for informal, spontaneous events will make your Kfest experience even more enjoyable. Avila College will be providing up to 80 rooms for Kfest -2000 attendees. So there should be plenty of room for everybody on campus. If you would prefer to stay off-campus, there are a number of hotels and motels close by. Off-campus registrations are also available. Ready to sign up? We hope so! You won't regret it. Stay tuned for registration information. It will be posted as it becomes available. And that will be very soon!! Meanwhile ... JOIN THE K2K - KFEST 2000 - MAILING LIST!! To subscribe to the Kfest Information Mailing List, send email to majordomo@kfest.org. In the BODY of the message, place the following text: ÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊsubscribe kfest You will receive a confirmation email. In order to be signed up for the list, you will have to respond to this confirmation as the instructions dictate. You will then be able to send and read messages on the mailing list. If you have other questions about KFest, or wish to make suggestions, you can find answers via the Internet. Just send an email message to kfest@intrec.com or kfest-help@kfest.org, or visit the World Wide Web page at... http://www.kfest.org ·¿¿...Now for the REAL TidBit collectives of first hand reports, pre- speculative, A2 magic - anticipation and excitement, do read on, to learn all offered to date about the KFest-99 events, happenings and surprises presented before, during and just after it all ended. From: ÊRSUENAGA Jul-20 3:25 amÊÊÊÊTo: ÊALL ÊÊ I'll be transient all day; Sheppy's dropping me off at San Francisco International in a few hours, and I'll be KFest bound from there. Have fun. I will. Sleep well. I won't. From: ÊHKATZ Jul-20 8:41 amÊÊÊÊTo: ÊCINDYADAMSÊ To all of you who're attending Kfest this year: Have fun, play nice, remember that 2 hours of sleep a nite is a lot during Kfest, and also remember that the skillet breakfasts at Denny's always taste good at 2am. And you all BETTER report what's going on there often so those of us who can't attend can at least enjoy the fest vicariously! :) Later.............Howard ·¿¿...couldn't make it this year - eh Howard. Well, your not alone. Neither could I. :( Maybe next year, next century, next Millinium. Look out K2K - the crowd is forming - now! To: Ê(HKATZ) ÊÊÊÊ >Have fun, play nice, remember that 2 hours of sleep a nite is a lot > during Kfest, and also remember that the skillet breakfasts at >Denny's always taste good at 2am. That's a lot of rules for us to remember! :) I'm about to pack up my stuff and head on over to Avila! I'll be the one with the "cheesey" earrings. Cindy From: ÊCINDYADAMS Jul-20 2:15 pmÊÊ KFest 1999 has begun!! There are already about 10 people here. Computers are plugged in and working. Ethernet is being used to access each other's hard drives. A load has gone to Hardee's for lunch. I had the first door sign up - Cheese! Loren has a different haircut. Jeff Blakeney is the first 1999 "newbie" to arrive. That's all I can think of after being here 1 hour. Momma Cheese From: ÊCINDYADAMS Jul-20 4:12 pmÊÊÊÊTo: ÊALLÊÊ It's now 3:00 KST (KFest Standard Time) The Binary Bus with the Ciotti's and Ewen has arrived. Dave Miller has been printing KFest since using the Avila ethernet network. (He used my computer and his printer.) It's still HUMID. Hot Pepper Dave still hasn't put up any signs yet. Momma Cheese PS Carl, Ryan, and Pat just walked in!! ·¿¿...sounds like it's starting to cook pretty good now. But, it get's much better...read on. From: ÊCindy (CINDYADAMS) Jul-20 6:52 pmÊÊÊÊTo: ÊCindy (CINDYADAMS) It's almost 6:00 KST The dorm is filling up. People are meeting the newbies. Dave Carey finally has a door sign, done with Print Shop GS, of course. It's still HUMID. We'll be leaving for KC Masterpiece shortly. Can you smeel the BBQ? Momma Cheese From: ÊSheppy Jul-20 8:16 pmÊÊÊÊTo: ÊCindy (CINDYADAMS)Ê ÊI'm packing as we speak. Our door sign is made, Sarah's GS is packed, clothes are in the washer, and I've got most of my other stuff gathered and ready to pack up. We're heading for a motel tonight nearer the airport, so we don't have to contend with traffic early tomorrow. --- Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd sheppy@sheppyware.net http://www.sheppyware.net From: ÊCindy (CINDYADAMS) Jul-22 8:48 amÊÊÊÊTo: ÊALLÊ We are now about to begin our second day of KFest. The sun is up and shining brightly. We can probably expect another humid day here in KC, MO. KFest officially started last night with an inspiring, and somewhat embarrassing, keynote address by the "World Famous Apple IIgs Newsletter Editor" Max Jones. After this session, JuicedGS hosted a reception. So far, I think I can report that everyone is having a great time! Now I'm off to breakfast in the Avila cafeteria, and then will learn more about Spectrum scripting than I thought possible. The Big Cheese PS This is being posted from the web because Delphi's text side seems to gone on vacation during KFest. ·¿¿...yes, sadly that did seem to be the case. Imagine Delphi's text side going on vacation. And, just when it was needed the most to host that: 'Live Chat from Kfest.99' -> :(( that never seems to have happened. Oh well, it was the thought that counted anyway...right? From: ÊCINDYADAMS Jul-22 4:04 pmÊÊÊÊTo: ÊALLÊ We just had a great session on PrintShop GS Companion taught by Hot Pepper Dave! He can really push that program to it's limit! The Big Cheese PS It would be great if everyone else here would start posting. : ·¿¿...Oh, I fully agree with that. Still, we take what we can get and learn to savor it. From: ÊWoof (GUDATH) Jul-22 5:23 pmÊÊÊÊTo: ÊCindy Thanks, Cindy, for the update. The rest of us appreciates it! Hmm, why was the keynote address somewhat "embarrassing"? Just wondering :-) Enjoy your time, KFest people! Henrik Woof Gudat ·¿¿...well, bless you Henrik. Like I've posted with the most sincerity. Bernie Rules in the IIgs emulator world. Mac and Be will pay the bills and development costs, etc. But, the PC platform is what's gonna buy you another new Mercedes. I hope you'll have a Bernie-PC version ready for release soon. There's a lot of old IIgs users in PCland now hoping and waiting. From: ÊCINDYADAMS Jul-22 7:57 pmÊÊÊÊTo: ÊWoof (GUDATH) >why was the keynote address somewhat "embarrassing"? It has to do with the Juiced.GS T-shirts. Cindy ·¿¿...hum, I wonder what that could have been all about. Maybe we'll find out later on down the lines. From: ÊStillHaveIt 12:14 amÊÊÊÊTo: ÊCindy (CINDYADAMS) Hi, ÊÊI am still trying to make it on Saturday. What is the schedule of events? In other words how early will I have to wake up to get there? :) Dain Neater Typing away on his Powerbook GS at 40mhz ·¿¿...a Powerbook GS at 40mhz, those are cool. I have one too :) Wouldn't leave home without it. Now...jumping back in time - one week before the last TidBits from Henrik, Cindy and Dain. Organization abounds with Kfest.99. Transportation has been well planned in ample advance. ***KFest Taxi*** From: ÊCKNOBLO Jul-15 10:40 pmÊÊÊÊTo: ÊALLÊÊ This is the KFest Taxi list so far. If you need a ride from and/or to the airport at Kansas City, now is the time to ask. Arrivals; Arrivals Name Airline Flight Date Driver Ryan Suenaga United 1406 7/20 12:29 pm C CarlK Pat Kern American 507 7/20 1:01 pm A CarlK Joe Kohn America West 2592 7/20 4:23 pm A CarlK? Giselle Schnaubelt NW 1855 7/20 8:05 pm C CarlK? Ken Gagne US Airways 1576 7/21 12:11 am A Geoff Margaret Anderson ????? 215K 7/21 12:39 pm Geoff Jerry Cline America West 2590 7/21 1:25 pm A Geoff Geoff Weiss SW 215 7/21 1:35 pm B Geoff Dean Nichols SW 566 7/21 3:50 pm B Sheppy Eric & Sarah Shepherd SW 524 7/21 4:40 pm B Sheppy Departures Jerry Cline America West 2831 7/25 6:00 am A Ewen Wannop America West HP2806 7/25 8:50 am A Joe Kohn America West HP2806 7/25 8:50 am A Ken Gagne US Airways 1575 7/25 11:05 am A CarlK? Eric & Sarah Shepherd SW 1533 7/25 12:15 pm B Sheppy Dean Nichols SW 1533 7/25 12:15 pm B Sheppy Geoff Weiss SW 7/25 1:00 pm B Geoff Pat Kern American 1094 7/25 1:57 pm A Geoff Giselle Schnaubelt NW 212 7/25 2:10 pm C Geoff Ryan Suenaga United 1663 7/25 6:25 pm C Cindy As you can see, there is still room for more drivers, as well as riders. ÊÊ-- ÊCarl Knoblock - Telephone Tech - Thu 15 Jul 99 9:37:33 pm Êcknoblo@novia.net - Via Spectrum v2.2 & Crock O' Gold v3.1 ÊRunning on a PowerBook G3 With Bernie at 266MHZ ÊKansasFest 11, July 21-25, 1999 - 6 days till KFest ÊUsing Marinetti 2.0.1 - Thank you, Richard I'm getting a pre-KFest taxi ride from Sheppy tomorrow morning. See ya next from Tracy, CA. - ÊRyan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org ÊEditor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi ÊPosted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Part Two Both MacProber and GS WorldView Editor comments, related below and above - noted with ·¿¿... The Finalle, Memories and BYE, BYE'S (Forward - back and in between) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ÊRSUENAGA Jul-26 11:55 amÊÊÊÊTo: Êtomzuski Hi Tom, ....btw, missed you at KFest this year. ·¿¿...So, we have another old-time KFest attendee that didn't make it there this year. OH well...remember - there's always KFest 2000. See you then. From: ÊKEN_GAGNE Jul-23 11:53 amÊÊÊÊTo: ÊSTILLHAVEITÊÊSaturday, July 24th -------------------------------- Ê8:00 Breakfast Ê9:15 Product Demonstrations 10:00 Hackfest '99 Ends 12:00 Lunch Ê1:30 Swap Meet/Vendor's Fair/Special offers. You are free to spend the ÊÊÊÊÊÊafternoon visiting with old and new friends, roping someone into helping you with a hardware or software problem, exploring Kansas City, etc. Ê6:30 Informal trek to Jess & Jim's Night Check out others' computers, get help with yours, explore Internet, check out new software and hardware, etc. ·¿¿...And, it looks like Ken Gagne made it again this year! Could we expect anything less of him? Never! From: ÊCINDYADAMS Jul-23 1:46 pmÊÊÊÊTo: ÊSTILLHAVEITÊÊ Ê>I am still trying to make it on Saturday. What is the schedule of events? 9:15 Product Demonstrations 10:00 End of HackFest '99 1:30 Vendor Fair and Swap Meet >In other words how early will I have to wake up to get there? :) I don't know. That's your decision. Cindy ·¿¿...fair enough. Nothing's better than leaving you with your own decision on when to wake up. Especially on Saturday. From: ÊBRB Jul-23 1:54 pmÊÊÊÊTo: Ê(KEN_GAGNE)ÊÊ How is hackfest going? Are you all looking over shoulders? Who is doing what? Will any one tell you what he/she is planning to do? Is anyone spending hours behind closed doors? Bruce Ê From: ÊCINDYADAMS Jul-23 1:54 pmÊÊÊÊTo: ÊALLÊÊ Friday Morning -- Craig Foos from Apple thought he was coming to talk to some mild-mannered people about the latest Quicktime stuff. But then he met us! Stan Marks taught us new things about the "old" AWGS database. He really does some cool stuff with it. Unfortunately, he didn't end his session soon enough, and made the mistake of showing a birthday card he had created. Lunch, and this afternoon we will have to choose between the following: Joe Kohn, Storyteller Toolbox Programming in GSoft Basic with Sheppy Tonight is the banquet and Roast of Ewen Wannop. Momma Cheese ·¿¿...Well, if I had to choose (they both say I'm CRAZY) but, I'd have to chose Joe Kohn. He's a GREAT Storyteller. see: http://www.primenet.com/~adams/kfest99/14.jpg What a JEWEL of a jpg - eh? Now...if that's not the perfect picture of a GREAT Storyteller - I don't know what is. From: ÊCINDYADAMS Jul-23 6:55 pmÊÊÊÊTo: ÊALLÊ It's Roast time!! I'll post more when it's over. Cindy From: ÊTeeC Jul-23 7:20 pmÊÊÊÊTo: ÊCINDYADAMSÊÊ Hi Cindy etal, Thanx for the info on KFest. It's good to know that things are still hopping. How many attendees? TTFN, TeeC ·¿¿...my speculative math calculations - put the total KFest attendees at around 44. Please...somebody correct me - if I'm in error. From: ÊTONYW1 Jul-24 1:39 amÊÊÊÊTo: ÊCINDYADAMSÊ Thanks for the updates, Cindy. Keep 'em coming! Ê- Tony From: ÊKEN_GAGNE Jul-24 1:49 amÊÊÊÊTo: ÊBRBÊÊ Bruce, I was the first entrant, and only after Max Jones gave me an idea for a program. (my imagination tapped, I had not planned on entering.) It's actually a semi-useful tool that I may upload once I get it full-featured - and working! I'm telling folks here what I'm writing, but only because they're going to see it. If I say something online, then I'll have to finish it. Jeff Blakeney is writing something in assembly, Richard Bennett has entered, and a mysterious fourth participant is to TBA. -Ken ·¿¿...Sound exciting. I've always gotten a thrill from Hacks. Thanks for the info Ken. We all look forward to your semi-useful, full-featured - and working tool - with great anticipation. Anything with those qualities is always very welcomed and appreciated in the A2 community today. Read on folks - for the winners to be announced a bit latter on down. Who could the TBA possibly be? We shall soon see. From: ÊHKATZ Jul-24 12:34 pmÊÊÊÊTo: ÊCINDYADAMSÊ Sigh. It'd be so much better to get the reports in person, at Kfest, by actually participating. I guess those of us not lucky enough to attend will just has to settle for vicarious attendance. Later..............Howard ·¿¿...yes :( this is oh so true for me too - to say the least. Oh, I could have gone. But, I had to make a choice; KFest 99 or Woodstock 99 - with my friends in the deep Northern California woods - watching it on a solar powered 'Big Screen Cable System. I choose Woodstock 99 and it was a fun time. But, I didn't stay tuned for the 'Light My Fire' -> vendor riot at the end of it all. I doubt that would ever happen a KFest. From: ÊStillHaveIt Jul-24 1:19 pmÊÊÊÊTo: ÊCINDYADAMSÊÊ Cindy, Looks like I am not going to be able to make it. I just got up at 11:45, add three hours on to that and I wouldn't make it there until almost 3 p.m. I am planning on next year, It looks like the last week in July, correct? Glad to hear you all are having a good time. Dain Neater ·¿¿...Bummer! Well, I look forward to meeting Dain - at K2K anyway. From: ÊCINDYADAMS Jul-24 1:43 pmÊÊÊÊTo: ÊStillHaveItÊÊ >It looks like the last week in July, correct? July 26, 2000 through July 30, 2000 The Big Cheese ·¿¿...Well, there you have it from 'The Big Cheese' herself. There will be a K2K (KFest 2000) after all then. From: ÊPaul (ZALESKI) Jul-24 3:06 pmÊÊÊÊTo: Ê(KEN_GAGNE)Ê Last year Hackett wrote a hack, based off a concept introduced by Max Jones, and won the thing. It could be you this year. Good Luck, - Paul From: ÊKEN_GAGNE Jul-24 3:33 pmÊÊÊÊTo: ÊPaul (ZALESKI)ÊÊ >Last year Hackett wrote a hack, based off a concept introduced by Max Jones, > and won the thing. It could be you this year. Turns out, it was. :) ·¿¿...Our sincere congratulations to Paul Zaleski for winning 'First Place at the KFest.99 - HackFest. I wonder what he did to win it? Guess we'll find out later on...WOOO...do read on. The above gave me the impression Paul took First Place. But, then six down, Ken seems to announce he claimed First Place. Most confusing! Fifth place went to Cindy Adams, who wrote a Spectrum script... because she could. :) Fourth was Jeff Blakeney's GSoft Basic program to strip the Binary II headers off a directory of ShrinkIt archives, and update their auxtypes accordingly. Third was Richard Bennett, who wrote an app that makes a IIgs mouse emulate an iMac mouse. Must be seen. :) ·¿¿...Sound like a DANDY to me. I'll bet it looked even better. I'm sortta shocked that Richard only came in Third though. He's such a fantastic and well seasoned programmer. And, he does a MEAN website also. Just have a look at my 'Turkey SPOOF site - he host and maintains. Nothing can top that. Shawn Beattie was second, who wrote a Y2KFest countdown program with scrolling text and a moving icon. Cool! My half-finished but functional Spectrum database program came in first. It allows you to maintain records of 1-8 fields each from within Spectrum. You can also import any Appleworks Database file (after saving it as a text file). This was a much cooler HackFest than last year, with more participants, more prizes, and more working code. (all participants this year finished their programs to one extent or another, whereas last year I think most programs were still in their planning stages). -Ken Ê ÊÊFrom: ÊPaul (ZALESKI) Jul-24 4:00 pmÊÊÊÊTo: Ê(KEN_GAGNE)ÊÊ Congrats! See the secret to hackfest >is< Max Jones. Keep up the good work. - Paul ·¿¿...now check that out will you. Seems Ken WINS 'First Place' after all. Hey then...congratulations go to Ken Gagne, from us and from Paul. Sorry for the confused mix-up above with you Paul. From: ÊCINDYADAMS Jul-24 6:07 pmÊÊÊÊTo: ÊPaul (ZALESKI)ÊÊ >Last year...Why aren't you here this year? A2.Mom ·¿¿...geez, what's a mis-informed GS WorldView editor to do? Now I see Paul Zaleski didn't even get to attend KFest.99. I guess, I need some sleep myself :) But, you'll have to admit, it is all sort of hard to follow in correct order. Oh well, now we know who the REAL First Place Winner is anyway. :)) From: ÊUTTER Jul-25 12:13 amÊÊÊÊTo: ÊCINDYADAMSÊÊ >>"July 26, 2000 through July 30, 2000" K2K! Gary R. Utter ·¿¿...Will we A2 users survive Y2K to make it to K2K ? Sure we will. From: ÊPaul (ZALESKI) Jul-25 1:35 amÊÊÊÊTo: ÊCINDYADAMSÊÊ Thats because Mike Westerfield and I are attending Gatesfest right now. :P ·¿¿...WOW...what a revelation to consider. ----------- Actually... I called Intrec in November to register. Those fools didn't want to take my money then. Thats when I had plenty. Here is the equation again: Fall=Cash Surplus Spring=Heavy Debt. You should know that by now, Cindy. I was 90% sure that I was going to go up to a week beforehand, but when I crunched the numbers, it just didn't happen. Besides, it gives you a year off from having to put up with me climbing the walls. - Paul I'm shooting for next year, be prepared. ·¿¿...Many others are also. Yes, DO be prepared. I might just make K2K myself. DARE I? Sure, why not. They arn't as MEAN as they make out to be against me. Are they? From: ÊCINDYADAMS Jul-25 3:52 amÊÊÊÊTo: ÊPaul (ZALESKI) >I'm shooting for next year, be prepared. I am!! ·¿¿...Good, so are others...I hope. Should be a REAL..MIND-BLOWING K2K event with fun, antics and NEW goodies for all and for sure. >I called Intrec in November to register. We'll be ready for you this time. Especially if you have lots of money. :) ·¿¿...YEAP, that where it's at - absolutely. We're ready if you have lots of money. >to put up with me climbing the walls. That was very impressive, but since they just painted the walls and got new carpet, maybe it was a good thing that you didn't climb this year. Cindy ·¿¿...there's always next year and K2K for all in attendance then to climb the walls day and night - none stop., exploring all the A2 magic everywhere. The walls should be dry by then. And, the NEW carpets should be nicely broken in too. No problems. From:ÊGeoff Weiss (SISGEOFF) Jul-25 4:02 amÊÊÊÊTo: ÊPaul (ZALESKI)ÊÊ >didn't want to take my money then. See, it wasn't me ;) I get blamed for everything! :) Geoff ·¿¿...not really. You only get blamed for SIS. Keep those updates coming. Soon, with SIS we might just have a A2 Netscape browser to use with Spectrum and other goodies for them - rumored to be 'in-the-works'. Who knows - only the developers - I'd guess. Time will tell. From: ÊSpud (UNCLE_DUCK) Jul-25 1:03 pmÊÊÊÊTo: ÊALLÊÊ Last year there was talk of having a talent show/contest this year. Did that come off? If so what happened and who won? If not, was there at least a hallway concert like '98? Dave (Cash Poor This Year, Maybe next....) Dave... ·¿¿...hum??? Well, looks like UNCLE DUCK didn't make it to KFest.99 either. Hope somebody gave a good alternative 'Hallway Concert - 99. If anybody caught it with audio - we can make an MP3 file of it and import it to play on the IIgs. Such a thing is possible you know! From: CINDYADAMS Jul-25 10:30 pmÊÊÊÊTo: ÊALLÊÊ I didn't get my usual post-KFest report typed while I waited for my plane this year, because Ryan was there to keep me company. It was really nice to have someone to talk to that understood the emotional high and fuzzy brain that I was experiencing. As far as I am concerned, I think this was the best KFest ever! (At least until Y][Kfest.) Lots of old friends, some new ones, great sessions, pretty good food, an inspiring Keynote address, an enjoyable roast, as well as many other things were just a few of the things that I enjoyed. Since I've kinda been posting here during my "spare" minutes, I'm going to let everyone else make their reports, and I'm just going to take this time to thank some people. I'll probably miss some really important ones, just like I missed some great door signs, but forgive me as I'm still on my KFest High!! (That is even more true since I'm cruising at about 30,000 feet altitude towards Arizona.) The committee is my main support for all of this. Jerry (who takes care of registration), Steve (who does all of the handouts and scheduling), Max (who does publicity and lots of other stuff), Stan, and Allen (who are both there to offer a hand to help whenever it's needed). ·¿¿...no question about it. The committee rules. TWO Apple II cheers for the committee. May they properly coordinate all - FOREVER. Thanks to "Sir" Ewen Wannop for designing the KFest '99 logo. He also has already started on the one for Y][Kfest, so be watching the webpage for that. I also want to thank him for graciously agreeing to be roasted and his gentle encouragement for me to pursue my scripting career. ·¿¿... yes SIR - we give a BIG thanks to Sir Ewen Wannop for his gentle encouragement for Mama Cheese to pursue her scripting career. "Fifth place went to Cindy Adams (Mama Cheese), who wrote a Spectrum script ... because she could." But, could she have ever done it to pull off being the Fifth place winner without the encouragement from Sir Ewen? He can stimulate a lot of people in a lot of ways, as I know only too well :) I'll bet you K2K may even have a script to allow direct viewing of GIFS, JPEGS and perhaps even our REAL IIgs SHR graphic format. That's what I'm going to K2K to see if it came off as I predict it just might. Cindy continues.... Thanks to Devin for hosting the KFest mailing list. This is a great help and communication tool for getting important information out to everyone. ·¿¿...sure nough. We'd know nothing - if it wern't for the related info made available from the KFest mailing list - hosted by Devin. And, thanks also - for furnishing us with all the info from that KFest mailing list. Cindy continues....with still more thanks... Another thanks to David Kerwood for maintaining the KFest website. ·¿¿...It's a dandy without a doubt. Go check it out. It's loaded with all the latest from KFest - ALL of them; 1997 to date! That URL incidentally is... http://www.kfest.org/ Take your time and explore it all. It's loaded to the temples with tons of GREAT KFest goodies to drool over. Well, as of this writing you can review the last two years of KFest goodies. Give em a little time and you should have a bunch of KFest.99 things to check out from the KFest official homepage and website. Shawn Beattie helped to make all of the sessions more "viewable" for everyone thanks to his projector. Thanks Shawn! ·¿¿...no argument on Shawn from us. IOHO, Shawn Beattie qualifies as a certified 'A2 Saint', along with a few others too. IF only all A2 users everywhere were as cool, understanding, supportive and nice as Shawn is to all - we'd have an A2 PARIDISE COMMUNITY. and, still Cindy give even more thanks.... Thanks to Erick Wagner (and everyone else) for the wonderful birthday card. It's such a pleasure for me to read all of the nice things that everyone wrote to "A2 Mum". (Stan, you aren't off the hook yet!) ·¿¿...Let's us ALL also wish 'A2 Mum' a wonderful (if somewhat belated) Birthday blessing. There's not to many (if any) other computer platforms that have such a loving 'A2 Mum' as our own A2 community has. Again from Cindy "A2 Mum, the Big Cheese, etc.... Carl Knoblock, the official KFest Taxi Dispatcher, and his helper Allen Moore, did a wonderful job of getting people to and from the airport, even at some really nasty hours. Thanks guys! ·¿¿...;-) Two more devoted hacks helping all out for KFest 99. Can it get any better ? I just hope the cost of gas was less there than it is here in California now :) And, in kind conclusion 'The Big Cheese ends with... I'm sure there are many other people that need to be thanked, and I could easily sit here and go down the list of everyone that was at KFest and realize that I need to thank you for something you did, but for now, I'll just make it a big KFest '99 thanks, and say I'll see you ALL next year! July 26 - 30, 2000 The Big Cheese ·¿¿...OK, we'll sure do our very best effort to,be there to enjoy all the fun and magic at K2K for certain. From: TONYW1 Jul-25 10:34 pmÊÊÊÊTo: ÊCINDYADAMS >July 26, 2000 through July 30, 2000 Is that official? I'm marking my calendar now. Yippee! Ê- Tony ·¿¿...and, SO ARE WE! I understand there were only 44 at KFest.99. Let's try to SELL IT OUT for K2K. It can HAPPEN. Yippee for sure. Just imagine the thrill of meeting Dr. Tom and MacProber at K2K in person. That alone is worth your all attending K2K.Ê From: ÊCINDYADAMS Jul-25 10:36 pmÊÊÊÊTo: ÊALLÊ >Last year there was talk of having a talent show/contest this year. >Did that come off? If so what happened and who won? If not, was there >at least a hallway concert like '98? The only musical performance was at the roast. It was a song written by Geoff Weiss and Richard Bennett. They performed it with some help from Max Jones. ·¿¿...oh, WOWZIE WOOO. I hope somebody got a recording of that. You know I'd sure buy it. I'd even make a NTGS music module of it. Somebody P L E A S E --- send me a file of that recording. Name your price. I've got to have it. CINDYADAMS ends it with... Hopefully we will be able to schedule one for next year! Y][Kfest! Momma Cheese ·¿¿...We'd be more than honored to do a DUET musical performance for all at K2K...if you'll let us in - that is ;-) Click here to vote on today's QuickQuestion. ·¿¿...Opp's, no place to click. Well, just go the the KFest homepage again ;-) http://www.kfest.org/ From: ÊCINDYADAMS Jul-25 10:37 pmÊÊÊÊTo: ÊTONYW1Ê >>July 26, 2000 through July 30, 2000 >Is that official? Yes, we are on the Avila schedule. See you there! Cindy ·¿¿...that sounds official enough for us. I'm opening a Special K2K savings acct. - tomorrow to cover my expenses to go. I just hope they accept my deposit for early reservations and all that. From: ÊRSUENAGA Jul-26 11:56 amÊÊÊÊTo: ÊTONYW1 Ê>>July 26, 2000 through July 30, 2000 Ê> Is that official? I hope so. I emailed in a vacation request yesterday. . . ·¿¿...NOW, that's promptness for you. I always admired Ryan for his promptness with everything. - ÊRyan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org ÊEditor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi ÊPosted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution ·¿¿...You want more ? Well, here it is. From: ÊRSUENAGA Jul-26 11:56 amÊÊÊÊTo: ÊSpud (UNCLE_DUCK) ÊÊ >Last year there was talk of having a talent show/contest this year. >Did that come off? If so what happened and who won? No talent show this year. I know someone wanted to ask The Big Cheese if there indeed would be one but, didn't for fear that her memory would be jarred :) If it's any consolation, I want to organize a rival to the Roger Wagner TieFest--the Ryan Suenaga ShortsFest. Winner gets a pair of shorts picked out by me. . . ·¿¿...I'd like to win that contest. I've heard that Ryan has fantastic taste in shorts too. Rumor even has it he owns a pair of boxer shorts with the Apple II's logo on em. Those would be a HOT sales item at K2K. Anybody want to set up a booth for that ? From: ÊPATZ_PIX Jul-26 12:02 pmÊÊÊÊTo: ÊCindy (CINDYADAMS) >The only musical performance was at the roast. It was a song written >by Geoff Weiss and Richard Bennett. They performed it with some help >from Max Jones. Can we please have the words posted here and to the Kfest Mailing List? The performance was great - hope some people got it on video. ·¿¿...Oh..I'm sure somebody did get it on video and audio too. At least I hope somebody did. Loosing such a rare A2 jewel as a duet of Prof. SIS and The Kapt. Krunch/SugarKid would be the ultimate loss of all time. Pat Kern . ·¿¿...ain't it the truth - Hail, Hail, the gang's all here. http://www.primenet.com/~adams/kfest99/1.jpg http://www.primenet.com/~adams/kfest99/2.jpg http://www.primenet.com/~adams/kfest99/3.jpg http://www.primenet.com/~adams/kfest99/4.jpg http://www.primenet.com/~adams/kfest99/5.jpg http://www.primenet.com/~adams/kfest99/6.jpg http://www.primenet.com/~adams/kfest99/7.jpg http://www.primenet.com/~adams/kfest99/8.jpg http://www.primenet.com/~adams/kfest99/9.jpg http://www.primenet.com/~adams/kfest99/10.jpg http://www.primenet.com/~adams/kfest99/11.jpg http://www.primenet.com/~adams/kfest99/12.jpg http://www.primenet.com/~adams/kfest99/13.jpg http://www.primenet.com/~adams/kfest99/14.jpg http://www.primenet.com/~adams/kfest99/15.jpg http://www.primenet.com/~adams/kfest99/16.jpg http://www.primenet.com/~adams/kfest99/17.jpg http://www.primenet.com/~adams/kfest99/18.jpg http://www.primenet.com/~adams/kfest99/19.jpg http://www.primenet.com/~adams/kfest99/20.jpg http://www.primenet.com/~adams/kfest99/21.jpg http://www.primenet.com/~adams/kfest99/22.jpg http://www.primenet.com/~adams/kfest99/23.jpg Well...that's all the graphics folks. That shows just about everybody that was there. So, it should be enough to tantalize all eyes that view them. ·¿¿...what? You want more - OK! From: KEN_GAGNE Jul-26 12:03 pmÊÊÊÊTo: ÊPaul (ZALESKI) >See the secret to hackfest >is< Max Jones. Not much of a secret, apparently. :) -Ken ·¿¿...apparently - NOT. >Can we please have the words posted here and to the Kfest Mailing List? I would like them too, but that's up to Goeff and Richard. Cindy ·¿¿...come on Goeff and Richard - we got to have those words. From: ÊCINDYADAMSJul-26 2:52 pmÊÊÊÊTo: ÊRSUENAGAÊÊ >I emailed in a vacation request >yesterday. . . Wow!!, I'm impressed! Do you have your airline reservations yet? Cindy ·¿¿...????????? We wonder too. From: ÊJUICEDGSJul-26 4:55 pmÊÊÊÊTo: Ê(KEN_GAGNE)Ê KEN_GAGNE said: >|See the secret to hackfest >is< Max Jones. > > Not much of a secret, apparently. :) :-) BTW, I already have a couple of ideas for next year's HackFest. ;-) The reason I thought of the idea of Spectrum script-based database is because I often get questions asked via e-mail by subscribers about the status of their subscriptions. To get the info, I have to quit Spectrum and launch AppleWorks GS, then go back to Spectrum with my answer. By converting my AWGS database and importing into a Spectrum database script, I could have access to the info from right there within Speccie. I would like that a lot. It would also be nice to have other databases available as well, or to create them within Spectrum. ·¿¿...great idea. We'll see if we can get somebody to make such a script for you and if we can...we'll give it to you for K2K. If we can't...well, at least we tried. We know it could be done. Who'll do it ? Ken did a nice job with the scripting program and I certainly hope he completes it. :-) I also hope everyone gets access to Shawn Beattie's GSoft BASIC "Countdown to Y][Kest" program. That was cool, too! ·¿¿...I'm sending Shawn an email request for it tomorrow! Hope he send it to me. -------- Eric Shepherd was the HackFest director and did a great job. I think he has succeeded in producing an event that is in the process of becoming yet another grand Kfest tradition. ·¿¿...We doubt that Eric will ever miss a KFest. And, he's made so many other KFest traditions, he's certainly good for another. After all...who else could be a better HackFest director than Eric Shepherd ? NOBODY. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did we mention that there were several hundred dollars worth of prizes? Nice incentive for the contest, eh? Max ·¿¿...Yes, money does talk. It's a fine incentive for any contest. ------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ÊJUICEDGS Jul-26 4:55 pmÊÊÊÊTo: Ê(PATZ_PIX)ÊÊ PATZ_PIX said: >|The only musical performance was at the roast. It was a song written >|by Geoff Weiss and Richard Bennett. They performed it with some help >|from Max Jones. > > Can we please have the words posted here and to the Kfest Mailing List? I have the words here. If I can generate the energy in the next day or so, I'll type them up and post them. Richard will probably upload the text file (along with the Midi file used to accompany the performance) once he gets settled back into his routine in Oz. Max ·¿¿...Thank you so much Max. I'll sure be looking for them. From: ÊGeoff Weiss (SISGEOFF) Jul-26 5:09 pmÊÊÊÊTo: Ê(PATZ_PIX)Ê >Can we please have the words posted here and > to the Kfest Mailing List? Richard is mucking with the lyric file a little bit. As soon as he is done, the lyrics and MIDI file will become available. If you want the MIDI file now, I found it by doing a Yahoo search using Queen and MIDI. Geoff ·¿¿...Could it be -> 'We Are The Champions of The World' ??? From: ÊUTTER Jul-26 5:22 pmÊÊÊÊTo: ÊRSUENAGAÊ >>"I emailed in a vacation request yesterday. . ." Must be nice. Susan and I aren't even ALLOWED to make vacation requests for next summer until April 1st. Gary R. Utter ·¿¿...I'd never make a vacation request on April 1st. Never would know if it's an April Fool joke or not :(( From: ÊRSUENAGA Jul-26 6:18 pmÊÊÊÊTo: Ê(JUICEDGS)ÊÊ Ê>Did we mention that there were several hundred dollars worth of Ê> prizes? Ê> Nice incentive for the contest, eh? Maybe the best thing about KFest--people go out of their way to be overly nice and generous. ·¿¿...Take it from one who knows first hand only too well - that's a fact JACK! From: ÊRSUENAGA Jul-26 6:18 pmÊÊÊÊTo: Ê(UTTER) Ê>>I emailed in a vacation request yesterday. . . Ê> Must be nice. Susan and I aren't even ALLOWED to make vacation Ê> requests for next summer until April 1st. I hope you folks find a way to come. The Utters are some of my favorite people at KFest, and we missed the two of you dearly this year. ·¿¿...noooooo ! Don't tell me the Utters didn't make it to KFest 99. What's this world coming too now? From: ÊCINDYADAMS Jul-26 8:1 Thanks to Wal-Mart's one hour developing, a scanner, and my son that knows what he is doing, we have pictures ready for public viewing. www.primenet.com/~adams/kfest99 The Big Cheese ·¿¿...ALRIGHT! I'm on my way now to check em all out. A ton of A2 CHEERS to your son for doing this. Now we can all see what was up at KFest 99 and get to see everybody that was anybody - that was there! I like this one the best of them all. http://www.primenet.com/~adams/kfest99/14.jpg Anybody now what that white thing is on his Black T-Shirt? From: ÊCKNOBLO Jul-26 9:49 pmÊÊÊÊTo: ÊRSUENAGA RSUENAGA said: > If it's any consolation, I want to organize a rival to the Roger Wagner > TieFest--the Ryan Suenaga ShortsFest. Winner gets a pair of shorts > picked out by me. . . I'd better start looking at the Summer clearance sales, then. I don't want to spend too much on this. :) ·¿¿...Neither do I. I sure hope I win the K2K Ryan Suenaga ShortsFest. I'm going to make some customized 'Old Navy' draw-string shorts with the Apple II Logo and K2K all over them - plus a pic of Woz and me pictured on the back of them in full color. If that doesn't win it - I don't know what will. From: ÊCKNOBLO Jul-26 9:49 pmÊÊÊÊTo: Ê(UTTER) UTTER said: > Must be nice. Susan and I aren't even ALLOWED to make vacation requests > for next summer until April 1st. I have to make mine in December. They change the way we select every year, it seems, but I have enough seniority to get what I want, usually. I've been able to make it 5 years in a row, which a lot of others can't. ·¿¿...Well, we didn't make KFest five years in a row (not even one)... but, GS WorldView has been able to make it on the Internet now for 5 years in a row - serving the needs of all A2 users world-wide. And, likewise, I also have enough seniority here with GS WorldView to get what I want too. So, I can pass it on to everybody that visits it - to review and enjoy. And, that's exactly what I'm doing. From: ÊUTTER 4:07 amÊÊÊÊTo: ÊRSUENAGAÊ >>"I hope you folks find a way to come." The big problem this year was "Y2K". City government has MANDATED maximum staffing for fiscal year 2000 (which started on July 1st) in order to be better able to deal with potential problems. That means if there are 25 chairs, there will be 25 butts in those chairs. No more than 48 hours of vacation time is allowed to be used per shift per day. (6 people per shift can request a vacation day and get it, no more.) (This is not quite as dumb as it sounds, we are in the process of replacing every computer in the joint, and there are several hundred of them. Extra staff IS real helpful.) Even at that, we almost made it. We both had to work on 7/22, our requests for time off for that day were denied, and we couldn't get anyone to swap with us. But we got all the REST of our day off requests. (Think of it as vacationis interruptus. :) Next year should be less of a problem, but the system itself is aggravating. As I said, we can't make requests until April 1st, and we normally don't get answers to the requests until 7-10 days before the date. (And that's a GOOD response time, for this place.) The thing to remember, though, is that 911 is not like other places. If we run short staffed, a call may not get answered in time and someone could die. As a rule, we prefer to avoid that. :) Gary R. Utter ·¿¿...that's a good rule to follow. I'd certainly hope it was in effect should I need to call 911. From: ÊUTTER 4:07 amÊÊÊÊTo: ÊCKNOBLO >>"I have enough seniority to get what I want, usually..." I lost all my seniority when I quit to do Syndicomm full time. (sigh) Not only would I be #1 on the vacation picks, but I would have 5 weeks of vacation instead of 3. But it was worth it. :) Gary R. Utter From: ÊKEN_GAGNE 2:40 amÊÊÊÊTo: ÊALLÊ Hi all, Last week at KFest, Max Jones of Juiced.GS demonstrated Silvern Castle, a new game for the 8-bit Apple II, written entirely in Applesoft BASIC. I've been playing it a bit and it seems like a great game - definitely commercial quality (I've paid for games just like it) - and so am starting this thread. First message here I'd like to post some excerpts from the docs: ------------- SILVERN CASTLE: The Lost Crystal Orb Program Author - Jeff Fink Version 1.0 - July, 1999 Shareware fees: $15 Jeff Fink 432 Eureka St., Apt. 210 Ripon, WI 54971 What is it? Silvern Castle is a fantasy role-playing game. You will be able to create up to 20 characters and take 6 of them on an adventure into the unknown depths of a multi-level 3-D maze. It won't be easy. Traps of all kinds abound, as well as hundreds of monsters. Will you be able to fulfill your quest and retrieve the lost Crystal Orb from the evil Wizard Drachma? Version 1.0 Silvern Castle was developed after the authors of Wizardry bragged that it was "...a game that simply could not have been written in BASIC."^1 Silvern Castle was purchased by Softdisk in 1988, but was never published. After the demise of Softdisk, I requested and obtained written acknowledgement that the rights to Silvern Castle shall revert back to me. Although I have greatly modified and improved upon the original Silvern Castle, it has until now never been seen, hence the version 1 moniker (although since 1988, it's probably up to version 20!). So, here for the greater Apple II community for the very first time is version 1.0 of Silvern Castle, a complete fantasy role-playing game written in Applesoft BASIC! ^1 Wizardry: Proving Grounds Manual, pg 1. Introduction to Silvern Castle Welcome to a new computer role-playing experience. At first glance, Silvern Castle may appear to be a Wizardry clone. However, other than its outward appearance, it outperforms Wizardry in scope and complexity. For instance, you get 250+ monsters (including wandering monsters, NPC parties, dragon lairs, snake pits, and humanoid dens, to name a few), 400+ items (mundane, magical, enchanted and cursed), special goodies, a multi-level 27x27 maze, rich spellbook system for magic-users, traps, magic fountains, computer-generated mazes and monster species, 100+ spells (of which many can be cast reversed), sub-plots and quests, and much more.. ÊÊ From: ÊKEN_GAGNE 2:47 amÊÊÊÊTo: ÊALLÊÊ When my half-hour layover in DC yesterday extended to five hours, I had a great opportunity to wear out the battery on my PowerBook playing Silvern Castle. I'd like to offer some pointers to people just starting: - Think about what races to use in your party. Demihumans get much higher stats than humans, but require twice the experience to advance each of the first four levels. It just gets worse after that. Try a mixed party. I'm using one with a demihuman fighter and mage, and a human fighter, mage, cleric, and thief. Don't take my word for it, though. I've tried human parties, demihuman parties, and mixed parties, and had them all slaughtered. (if you see priestesses or pixies - RUN! or fall back to your last save) - Like I said, this game is tough. :) The only way I can see surviving: cheat. Create five dummy characters (fastest way is human male fighters of strength 14; I named them A-E) and create a party of those five and one of your real characters. Send the keeper to Quillion's Trading Post to Buy, and Pool your gold. Then delete the five fake characters, and repeat. After a few minutes of this, you should have enough gold to outfit all your characters with decent weaponry & armour. - Mages and clerics are useless without spells. Buy scrolls at Quillion's then Add them to your spellbooks. Don't count on finding scrolls as random treasure in the dungeon (castle?). -Ken Silvern Castle is $15 shareware. Payment earns you the unlocking code necessary to enter the final room on the final level to beat the game. Also, a random maze generator is unlocked, for infinite play. -Ken ·¿¿...and we leave you with one FINAL JEWEL to ponder over. Ê In message 'Hardware' (Re: Msg 24012)' EWANNOP said: > But all except the Ethernet card exist for the IIgs... Ewen - Prehaps you and Tony Diaz need to set aside some time at Kansasfest to have a cup of coffee alone together. - Mike ·¿¿...Bravo Mike. ! You sure told it like it was on that comment. Well, there you have it everybody...all we could gather concerning, from, to and about the annual 'Center of the Apple ][ Universe Happening' So, now you know as much about it all, as we do. Hope you enjoyed your review and TidBit tour of the happenings of Kfest 99. That's All Folks! Cheers & Best Wishes...from; MacProber & Dr. Tom -EOF-